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Was gonna scream about how much I love these two but fine, I'll spare you the ramblings and go finish one of my 100 year old WIPs instead

Was this supposed to be a posing practice? Yes. Am I happy with the posing? Ehhhh ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Aaaalso just wanna say that I'm opening ✨commissions✨ again if anyone's interested (still working on my boblin stuff I swear!)

This is why I made the poll for the pen name. https://www.tumblr.com/dreamboundedstar/714892108056674304/which-sounds-like-the-best-pen-name-for-tina?source=share I'm aware that I chose 2nd place but the poll was never about picking the winner but to help me realize what I really wanted. Shout out to the people that commented on the Reddit post I made that helped me figure out what I really wanted for Tina's pen name as well. https://www.reddit.com/r/BobsBurgers/comments/12p8xdk/imagine_this_tina_has_grown_to_be_a_successful/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 Tori Ryder as Tina's pen name is my backup plan in case the show makes its own pen name for Tina or uses her real name. That way I can say it's a completely different person and Tina's just projecting onto the cover as usual. Now that I got credits out of the way onto the piece at hand. Anyway, I've been wanting to do this for a while because I love Greek mythology, Tina loves horses, immediately wanted to do Tina as a centaur. I thought it would be funny to have one of older Tina's published stories be centaur people and a minotaur. I was hesitant to do it for a while though because drawing horse and cow anatomy is intimidating as all get out. Any other option would be expensive though so I eventually put on my big girl pants and did this. I think this piece made me develop carpal tunnel but it was worth it. Serves me right for not remembering to use my whole arm when drawing anyway. XD Originally the idea had Tina as the alicorn centaur and Jimmy Jr. as the sea centaur because Tina would want to be the alpha horse person while it was easy to pun JJ's name as a sea centaur (Swimmy Jr. XD). I switched it when I realized that Tina also had a love for marine life and her being a sea centaur became more fitting. So now onto the name of the characters for this fake story Zeke - Iezekial the minotaur Tina - Princess Tritina the ichthyocentaur

Jimmy Jr. - Prince Iakobos II the Sky Kisser the alicorn centaur Anyway, this is a fake cover I wanted to do because I thought it would be funny to do a trashy romance novel parody. I'm not intending to make a story based on the cover ever. I already have other story ideas that are slowly dying so I don't need to add another one. XD Here's the cover I based my cover's color palette on. https://books.google.com/books/content?id=UHWJkQdCSSwC&pg=PP1&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&bul=1&sig=ACfU3U3w_r4ifjjKvLVPGpz285AX4gHYLw&w=1280 You're free to do a fanfic based on this cover if you want though. I encourage it so I don't have to do it! XD The basic idea is the story is a love triangle story and you're free to decide who wins (though it's Ancient Greece and it's Tina, you read the context clues XD). Anyway, hope you like it! I'm really proud of this piece. :3

Ha, frozen yogurt! Jimmy Jr. can't even afford regular yogurt!

So precious! Tina looks so comfy in that outfit! Love the soft, colored outlines too. I look forward to the context of this scene, whatever it is.

Commission I did for @jimmyjrsmusoems that miiiiight have something to do with her upcoming fic 👀👀👀 Better get your popcorns prepared guys it's gonna be super 💫❤

Now everyone shush up and look at these bloody idiot kids

I Decided to Analyze the Kisses From "UFO No You Didn’t" Just Because:

At first, I just wanted to see the time duration between the kisses Tina did with Jimmy Jr. and Zeke to see how long she did for both of them. I figured I might as well go further and analyze what was going on during the kisses. Since Tina kissed Jimmy Jr. first I'll start with him.

Okay, to start off the kiss overall lasts around 4 seconds which fun fact, the average time duration of a kiss nowadays is 12 seconds according to my brief research on Google. In the 1980s the time duration was 5.5 seconds which Tina was closer to. Though nobody well-adjusted wants to see 13-year-olds kissing for 12 seconds, so glad Tina didn't go fully for either average for what she thought would be her last kiss with JJu. Anyway, as the kiss goes on JJu is basically in shell shock for the duration of the kiss. Not much eye movement to try to process what is happening. Though it's clear that JJu is so shocked that his arms go limp and he loses his backpack in the process. Tina kisses JJu with so much force that they still move slightly as Tina turns her head to make sure her kiss gets every part of his mouth. When Tina first turns her head I notice that JJu's eyebrow does lift up, assumingly because he didn't expect her to deepen the kiss on top of not being expected to be kissed in the first place. His raised eyebrow only lasts for a bit though and it goes back to the normal shell-shocked position when Tina turns her head again. Lastly, and the most interesting part of the kiss in my opinion is the last turn of the head Tina does. Once she turns her head to the last side of JJu's face, he lifts his arm up. Even in his shell-shock state, he still instinctively lifts his arm up. Though, we'll never know if it's because he wanted to push her off or if he wanted to embrace her. Tina ended it before he could do anything with his arms. Though given his reaction of "Whoa" as Tina ran away, it's more likely the latter was the case.

Though even if the kiss did last longer, knowing JJu he most likely would have left his arms like that and have no idea what to do with them because he's a dumb, teenage boy who can't handle that much intimacy.

That's all I can think of to talk about for that kiss. Now onto my favorite one, to no one's surprise.

For Zeke's kiss, it lasts about 2 seconds. That's not surprising seeing as Zeke was never going to get the longer kiss of the two at this point in time. However, what's special about this kiss at the start is that the animators went out of their way to zoom in on Tina kissing Zeke. That's interesting because they didn't put in the effort to turn the medium-long shot into a medium shot for Jimmy Jr. and Tina's kiss. The camera zoom clearly symbolizes the shock Zeke is feeling and emphasizes the shock the audience is supposed to feel at this moment. Though it's also possible they didn't zoom in for JJu because they wanted the audience to notice the arm lift more when it happened.

What's interesting about the start of Tina's kiss to Zeke is that she starts her kiss with her head tilted and then moves it back to it being straight, unlike Jimmy Jr's kiss where she started straight and tilted it both ways as the kiss went on. It's safe to assume it's because she wasn't running towards Zeke for a kiss and was prepared to be more calculated in her kiss. In short, she wasn't going to break her nose for Zeke. Since Zeke only has 2 seconds, he has even less time to react to anything that is happening. He's so shocked that his arms are stiff in place as Tina pulls his backpack straps. Even with his shorter time duration, Zeke's mental reaction time is still faster than JJu's in that his eyebrows raise even higher for a second time (the first was when Tina first pulled on his backpack straps) and his pupils dart up and back in place, not believing what is happening (the pupils darting up and down is my favorite part of this moment X3). After his pupils finish moving, Tina pushes Zeke's backpack straps back with so much force that his arms swing a bit, showing how shocked Zeke was by the whole ordeal. No matter how fast his mental reaction was, it was clearly never going to translate fast enough physically.

After that Tina leaves the poor boy stiff as a board, wondering what the heck just happened.

The episode goes on and even if JJu had the clearly more intimate kiss, he never brings up the kiss even when it's revealed why she did what she did. Meanwhile, despite having the less intimate kiss, Zeke makes it clear that he's open to another kiss in the next apocalypse. Then he immediately drops the playful teasing once Jimmy Jr. gets suspicious of Zeke's wording. Knowing how jealous JJu can get and not wanting to hurt him, Zeke distracts him with wrestling.

I think that's about all I can add to this analysis of the two kisses. Hope you enjoyed reading it. I'll end this by saying, Jimmy Jr. may have got the longer kiss, but Zeke would always have Tina's last kiss that episode and that's more important in my book. XD Also here are some funny screenshots of Zeke's smile turning into a frown once he realizes he screwed up. XD

Since there's not going to be a Valentine's day episode this month. I wanted to fill that void by making these. So here you all go, puns and all! Happy Valentine's day!

Bob's Burgers Birthday Headcanons (Just some of the kids, no adults bday HCs sorry)

Tina - March 7th, 1998 (I liked the idea of using the abbreviation of March and 7 to make it almost look like Mary. Mary sounds like marry after all, which is something Tina would like to do when she's older. RIP July 8th birthday headcanon I wanted to keep so bad.) Gene - December 3rd, 2000 (It's already confirmed that Gene is a Sagitarrius so this one was the easiest to choose. I thought it would be cool for Gene's birthday to be the median date of Thanksgiving and the first of the 12 days of Christmas. Also 12/3, twelve is divisible by 3. XD)

Louise - January 19th, 2002 (basically the opposite date of the median date of Tina's and Gene's bday, July 20th)

Zeke - May 23rd, 1998 (The most we know is that Zeke's mom was pregnant with him during prom. I thought it would the funniest outcome to have Zeke be born on prom night. The unfortunate part of the idea is that there's no one prom date, so I'm never going to have an exact perfect date for this idea. I also didn't realize I was using the birthday of Bob's voice actor until after the fact. So it might change later, depending on if I find a better prom date for Zeke's mom or not) Jimmy Jr. - February 17th, 1998 (Release date of Footloose, I thought it would be fitting for him.) Rudy - April 6th, 2002 (it's when the episode, "House of 1000 Bounces" came out so I just made it easy on myself for this one) That's all the bdays I want to give headcanons to. If anyone wants to give suggestions for better prom dates for Zeke's birth, be my guest. I choose 1998 for Tina, Zeke, and Jimmy Jr. because 2011 is when Tina's first birthday episode was aired and roll with it, regardless of the floating timeline. I needed to figure out which numbers were Saturday for Zeke's birthday somehow. XD

Well narratively speaking it was to make the easy innuendo. In terms of character, Tina was probably instructed by Louise to get Zeke because they needed a "hammer" for the whack-a-toe while Louise and Gene gathered the others during recess to speed the process. Tina kept it brief with JJ because she would take any skill he could bring to the team just so she could be with him, even though she wasn't asked to add him. It's the Belchies all over again! She also probably kept it vague for JJ so he would be curious enough to follow her and see what the heck is going on. Still, it is adorable to see Zeke getting so enthusiastic about the prospect of winning a dune buggy.

By rewatching S9e2 I noticed (along with before) that Tina only informed Zeke about the plan and he automatically agreed to help. Though Zeke is always a helper to others but bit more so with Tina. And what really gets me is that she explained it to Zeke but not Jjr. I don't know how to take it but it's definitely a different level. Because she would always try to include Jjr first on things and doing the opposite with others by trying to ignore mostly. Probably just looking into this too much but I'm really intrigued by this.

I wanted to update you, thanks to "So You Stink You Can Dance", I now conclude that Zeke became a Wagstaff student in 6th grade over 5th grade. It's thanks to Leslie getting his spirit crushed by Spencer that I was able to figure it out. Given Leslie can drive, is not much taller than Jimmy Jr., and I assume around the same height as Logan, the youngest he can be is 16. He also could probably be 17 or 18 but I'm going with 16 for now. I believe he would be much taller if he was in his 20s. Leslie used to love dancing and Zeke has a video of him on his phone his cousin dancing at the age of 13. We find out that Leslie tried to take his dancing to the next level "a few years ago" so it is at least more than 2. Since this is the first time Jimmy Jr. is hearing about Leslie getting crushed by the same man that he is going to get criticism from, Leslie had to have been rejected before Zeke went to Wagstaff. If he was rejected when Zeke and Jimmy Jr were already friends, you know Zeke would have been talking about it with JJ for comfort so it wouldn't make sense for JJ not to already know the story before the episode.

So my timeline is Leslie got the brutal criticism at 13 (to be fair, he could have been older when he tried out, but I think the intention of the episode was to show he tried out at the same age JJ and the rest to parallel his situation) while Zeke was 10. Zeke's family moves again when Zeke turns 11 and the scar of Leslie getting his dancing spirit crushed has faded after a year. He goes to Wagstaff in the 6th grade and meets a new friend with a passion for dancing that reminds him of the passion his cousin used to have and they immediately click, much to Tina's dismay.

I prefer 6th grade to 5th grade for Zeke anyway because it shows Tina's original disdain for Zeke in his fist appearance was fresh but not too fresh when it comes to him taking JJ's attention from her.

I have been rewatching some Bob's Burgers episodes and now I am going to show my headcanon of when Zeke first came to Wagstaff. TLDR version, I think Zeke became a student at Wagstaff between 4th and 7th grade. I think my safe bet is either 5th or 6th grade unless I find more evidence. Here's the evidence of how I came to the conclusion. So we know that Zeke wasn't there when Tina, Jocelyn, and Jimmy Jr. were in third grade because in the episode, "Can't Buy Me Math" Jocelyn immediately reveals that she remembers "the pee thing" while neither Zeke nor Tammy comment on it (Also wanted to bring up I know Darryl said 2nd grade but keep in mind he's a grade lower than Tina and the rest). Tammy doesn't because she wasn't there when it happened because she became a Wagstaff student in 8th grade. Jimmy Jr. left before we could ever find out if he remembered. Tammy and Zeke would have definitely commented on remembering it if they knew about it, one being more malicious about it than the other mind you.

So to me, I think it's safe to say that Zeke wasn't with them during third grade. I don't think Zeke was in Wagstaff in 4th grade either because in the episode, "A Fish Called Tina" We get a flashback of 9-year-old Tina with other students. Jimmy Jr. and Jocelyn are in the flashback, but not Zeke. Lastly, in the episode, "A Few Gurt Men" it is revealed by Mr. Branca that someone tried to flush down three spoons last year, which Zeke apologized for. So it's safe to say Zeke was with them during 7th grade and didn't just recently transfer to Wagstaff in the 8th grade like Tammy. So because of the evidence I gathered so far, I think between 4th and 7th grade is when Zeke moved and became a student at Wagstaff.

My guess is 5th or 6th grade until I see something that contradicts it.

Just Wanted to Update My Touch Tank Idea:

I had this idea to do something with Tina as a creature from the touch tank a while ago. https://www.tumblr.com/qilin-crusader/697656683256741888/tacosandtouchtanks-okay-i-just-wanted-to-update?source=share I wanted to update it a little because I realized I had a better setup to include the entire echinoderm family for Tina, her siblings, and her friends (though I use friends loosely for some of them) Louise: Sea urchin by a long shot when I found out that sea urchins liked to wear hats (a sea urchin with bunny ears would be so cute X3). Not to mention urchin is a word for a troubled, street kid which fits Louise. Gene: Sand dollar because another name for the sand dollar is sea biscuit or cake urchin which fits him for obvious reasons. Jimmy Jr.: Starfish because of his passion for dancing. Jocelyn: Starfish for being blonde and popular. Tammy: Brittle star fits her perfectly. She tries to be a starfish but her facade very easily shatters. Also, another name for brittle star is serpent star and we all know why that fits her too. XD Zeke: Sea cucumber. The description Tina gives the sea cucumber in "Aquaticism" fits Zeke to a T. Also metaphorically speaking, a creature that spends so much time providing for other sea creatures and letting them live in their butthole while rarely getting anything in return also fits Zeke. Tina: She starts out desiring to be a starfish but insecurity over time makes her believe she's actually an urchin. Turns out she's neither starfish nor an urchin, she's a sea lily. Sea lilies without their stalks are also known as feather stars, so she could also be that but I like the lily one better because the phrase, "gilding the lily" fits her so well.

That's pretty much the update. I want to include Susmita as well, but I'm not sure which echinoderm to make her or if she should even be an echinoderm at all. I probably would make her another starfish because of space stuff if I want to keep with the echinoderm theme. I'm open to other suggestions though because I know touch tanks have more than echinoderms. I'm not even sure if sea lilies or brittle stars are normally part of touch tanks anyway? I just wanted to use them because they are part of the echinoderm family. lol I'm pretty set on all the ones chosen though and I believe fit all of them pretty well, I'm just stumped when it comes to adding other characters. Thank you for taking the time to read this. Update 1/12/2023: Adding more friends to the touch tank idea. Susmita: Hermit crab because it's cute and Zeke named one Saucey which can almost be a cute nickname for Susmita. So I rolled with it because I like hermit crabs. Henry Haber: Horseshoe crab because of his love of dinosaurs since it's a living fossil. Also, both hermit crabs and horseshoe crabs aren't real crabs so they have that in common. Darryl: Sea anemone because I found out that some species of sea anemones sometimes choose to sit on top of hermit crabs or sea snails. I just think it fits Darryl because of how much of a wimp he is. I think the idea of him sitting on hermit crab Susmita for protection is really cute. Rudy Stieblitz: Sea snail because I thought it fit him being the slowest runner in the world.

Courtney Wheeler: Starfish because of her being a blonde and also very stardom driven. Alex Papasian: Hermit crab because of that one time he wanted to run away.

I hope I'm not part of the problem because I like to consider myself somewhere in between. I see your point and I agree but that's not going to stop me from being annoyed seeing Jimmy Junior treat Tina not that great. Heck, in "Burger War", an episode after he kissed Tina on her birthday he didn't even remember her name. They have been restaurant neighbors for how many years before the kiss and he doesn't have her name in his memory?! Credit where credit is due, he has shown there is hope for him. In "Bad Tina" he wasn't completely turned off by the idea of being the main love interest in Tina's "Buttloose" story which is nice because she really needed a win after the embarrassment she subjected herself to. In "Every Which Way but Goose" he helped save Bruce the Goose when the bird was stuck by a friendship bracelet caught in a nail when he didn't have to and while he had a sore butt. I know I wouldn't go anywhere near a goose, those are vicious, f u birds.

He went out of his way to give Tina a rose when he had no idea how to purchase a carnation from Tina during the "Gene and Courtney Show" episode.

He sold his bike in "Gene it On" just so he could take Tina on a date "she" (Louise) wanted to go on.

I'm not counting the Sky Kiss from "Bob Actually" because it's hard to tell if it was selfless or not. It seems he wanted to do it more for the cool factor (especially since he implied he wanted Tina to wear a different outfit earlier in the episode in a passive way. Not the best look for him but it's not "spawn of satan" worthy obviously, just kind of mild jerky. To be fair, Tina is always wearing a skirt so maybe he wanted her in pants for the sky kiss for her sake but we'll never know what he meant by that.) In the Bob's Burgers movie he (allegedly! Like with death in fiction, if they didn't show it, it didn't happen./hj XD) found Tina's barretecklace not knowing what it was but knew it looked like something she usually wore and decided to give it to her. That was enough for Tina to see romance wasn't dead and she was okay with the romance real Jimmy Jr. could do even if it may not be like fantasy Jimmy Jr. That's all the selfless acts that I remember him doing for Tina and only for her that didn't benefit him in anyway (aside from more kisses from Tina). Feel free to add any other selfless acts Jimmy Jr has done in the past that didn't benefit him in some way (aside from Tina's affection) What his major issues that I feel people have a problem with stems from 4 factors. 1. He's self absorbed 2. He can't take constructive criticism at all. 3. He's quick to bail on Tina when things get too weird, intense, or hard. 4. He is hot and cold with Tina a lot.

However, even with these flaws, he's hardly the spawn of satan because of them. In fact, in the words of Miss Labonz, I only really wanted to "punch that kid" for what he did in two episodes. 1. "Presto Tina-o" 2. "V for Valentine-detta"

The rest of the time I feel he's not that bad or was justified because Tina has her problems too. She can also be selfish, have misplaced confidence issues, can be creepy, near predatory, and not know when to tone it down with her intense emotions. However, I hate the first episode so much for how both JJ and Zeke treated Tina (though JJ is worse). Jimmy Junior wasn't taking his magic act seriously at all and it was clear he only wanted to do a magic-themed dance routine over an actual magic act. That's not bad in it of itself, but at least be upfront about just wanting to do a magician-themed dance and not an actual magic act. Tina tried to steer him to actually perform tricks in his magic show but Jimmy Junior could not even take the slightest bit of advice from her because he couldn't stand the thought of someone who had only been doing magic for a day trying to help/possibly know more than him when he was 8 days ahead. Then later he and Zeke laugh at her for being mad, low-key bullying her for showing angry emotions (at least that's how it felt for me anyway but I might be biased).

His inability to not take criticism persists even in season 13, but this was his worst showcase of it. Though, even with that, I understand why this is the case. He already feels at home that he's constantly criticized for who he is by his dad. So he refuses to listen to any criticism from his friends because it feels like a personal attack on him, even if it's with the best intentions. His friends are his safe space, so if even his friends have issues with him, no matter how minor, where else can he feel safe? The second episode, good gosh what was Jimmy Junior thinking with this one?! That's something more his dad would pull, not him! I know he's a dumb teenage boy but what he did in that episode was downright malicious (no wonder Linda later changed her mind about Jimmy Jr. from her opinion of him in season 1 and told Tina she wasn't sure about him in "One of the Boyz 4 Now" XD). Not only did he play with Tina, but he dragged Becky down with Tina as well. Good thing Tina helped a girl out in the end after JJ abruptly dumped her. Becky should be part of Tina's new friend group with Susmita and Dillon lol) Though to defend JJ, I feel the way he treated Tina was what he learned subconsciously from his dad. Even though he tells his dad he's his own person, he still falls into similar pitfalls because that's all he's been taught at home. So I feel once he realizes how much he's taking after his dad when he's older he's going to be disgusted with himself and try to be better. So in short, he's been a stinker a few times but there's still hope for him and I'm sure he'll turn out fine if we ever get a real flash-forward episode. While I can't speak for every Zekina shipper, I think part of the overabundance of hatred JJ gets stems from insecurity. While it's been confirmed on Anidom's Twitter poll Zekina is the more popular ship (at least on Twitter), there's still uncertainty to it all. Being the more popular ship doesn't do a darn thing to make it end game (just ask the Zutara shippers from the ATLA fandom). For example, LisaxNelson is the more popular ship in the Simpsons fandom but more often than not Milhouse is the one Lisa ends up with in flash-forward episodes. So even if Zekina is more popular we still very well could not be end game because the cast thinks JJxTina is funnier or is more in line with what Tina wants anyway. Why should Zeke get what he wants and not Tina after all? Why should Tina have to be the one to settle after all the work she's put in to make her fantasy a reality? So because of this possibility, some Zekina shippers might overcompensate by constantly pointing out every negative thing JJ has done and putting him down to make them feel better about their stance. Though, tearing down one ship just to build your own is never a good idea. It just shows your insecurity in your tastes when you bash a rival ship or a character in a rival ship. You don't need a ship to be canon to justify its existence. It's okay to like what you like whether it's endgame or not. If Zekina happens, great but don't pull a Ron the Death Eater on JJ to justify your ship. Jimmy Jr.'s worst crime is that he's a dumb teenage boy with a bad home life. He's not going to be the most well-adjusted, but at least he's not Tammy. He's just self-absorbed, criticism adverse, and an idiot kid that eats pistachios whole. He has a good heart deep down even if he has a lot to work on with himself like all teens do. He won't' be high in my top favorite Bob's Burgers characters but you can bet that he won't be the last either. Don't make JJ the bad guy and lose Zeke and Tina forever because he is clearly hopeless without them. XD

I love Zeke x Tina, but there's so much Jimmy Jr hate in the community. Like... guys, I get it, he can be a bit sour sometimes... but do you know why that is? He's a TEENAGE BOY, not only that, but his parents are divorced, his dad is very neglectful and puts him down, he looks down on his passion for dance and honesty just gives: "I am a toxic straight dad and when I see the slightest bit of creativity, it means pansy and you will be punished"; he's also said that he feels left out and lonely due to his little brothers being twins and being best friends. He's just a kid, a kid who likes to dance, leave him alone. In my head, in a world were Tina and Zeke end up together, Jimmy Jr would still be there, as the bff. The three of them can't be separated, are you kidding me????

Finally googled if anybody discussed the meaning of "Just What I needed"

So here's the link to what people think the song is about. https://songmeanings.com/songs/view/5845/ Basically, if you gender-flip the song, I think it fits Tina's relationship with Jimmy Jr. She has no idea why she likes him and he's not that healthy to be around but he's just "what she needed" anyway. It's a cynical, dark song about a toxic partner that the singer shouldn't be with but they are drawn to the partner anyway in short. So yeah, not the most positive song for Tina the poor girl. Though not sure if that was the intention on the part of the showrunners to signal that Jimmy Jr. is toxic or they just thought it was a good song for spin the bottle?

Honestly, I just want to see the Hormon-iums end credits be analyzed. More specifically how each boy of the 4 reacted to Tina kissing them. I mostly only care about Zeke and J Ju obviously. Jimmy Jr. and Tina are obviously more confident and have no hesitation because they kissed before. However, I just find it cute that before Zeke kissed Tina he tilted his head and raised his eyebrows as if to say "Are you sure you want to do this" or "you ready for this" (at least that's how I interpreted it). The point is, there was some hesitation before the moment. After it happened, Zeke was shocked and his eyes opened faster than Tina's did. Even though the end credits aren't canon, it's still interesting to see all the different ways the kissing was animated and it wasn't just a copy/paste kissing animation.

Hey there! Thank you very much for your patience! And thank you so much for this very interesting request and I agree with your analysis but let's take one step after the other.

As always this is very much just my opinion! My interpretation! My headcanons! (sorry for any mistakes).

First I want to take a look at the kiss with Darryl.

Because I think there is something interesting to take into account. I want to think Tina chose Darryl over Peter in this moment because they kissed before in "Can't buy me math".

I like to think they are still friends. We all know Tina loves kissing but many scenes make me wonder if to her it does not always has to be romantic. She just likes to kiss without the prospect of finding her one true love through it. Maybe it's all practice?

The first kiss is very quick, just a peck and means nothing. Darryl even wipes his lips while Tina is monologing.

And now let us look at the other kisses. I gif-ed them.

Nameless Boy #1: I feel like this boy knows what he is doing. They near each other without any hestiance, both having their eyes open at first. He realises that he is not closes enough, peeks and closes the distance. It's simple and short and there is no romantic intent or passion. Tina doesn't smile and it's just a short soft peck. Her eyebrows rise after the kiss but I guess it's suprise because he closes in rather fast and she is pushed back a bit. Let's get over with it XD

Nameless Boy #2: I wonder if that was his first kiss. He goes in with closed eyes. Makes me also wonder if Tina realised her mistake from before. She has her eyes open until she knows she is close enough and only at the end she closes her eyes. Again the kiss is a very soft short peck. What I really find remarkable is how he his eyes fly open. He looks so suprised. Not sure because it is over already or if it was better or worse than he thought? Also it does not feel romantic. Again it's short and Tina does not smile!

But I headcanon that since Louise coached her Tina is a really good kisser. She also had a lot of practice xD. Either way, if it was his first kiss... good for him :)

Zeke: As you said, there is this questioning look on Zekes face - tilt of his head down wards, raising of his eyebrows - before he moves in. Interesting is, that Tina moves at the exactly same time so the communication of her agreeing must has been somewhere we aren't able to see.

This is after the episode "The Oeder Games" in which Zeke told Tina the second time that he likes her. And this is also after the episode "Stand by Gene" in which Tina considers Zeke as a potential Love interest - even if only for a second.

I'm not sure if it just me but Tina seems to smile a bit more than with the others? I'm not 100% sure though. But what is happening is that this kiss takes a bit longer. Still quick but longer. It's also not one of them moving while the other waits, no the both move at the same time. They reach the middle at the same time and both have their eyes closed. They know where they have to move! And what I really love (like you mentioned!) is after they move away from each other Zeke looks so suprised like "first kiss with Tina!!!" and his eyes actually snap open because (I imagine) he wants to see her reaction. And Tinas reaction is amazing. Because her eyes OPEN SO SLOWLY?! She moves back, her mouth returns to it's normal position - maybe a slight smile - and then her eyes slowly open. Like she thinks that was better than she thought.

This is so different to the other two. It's also soft but different soft... holy shit.

Jimmy Jr.: Last one. Jimmy Jr. is the boy she had kissed most of the times at that point. They had been on-and-off in the last five seasons. Here too, both move in at the same time. They know what they do, they have done this before BUT the last gap is closed by Jimmy Jr. This kiss seems to be like the least soft. We also don't see the after-kiss. Right after this it cuts to black.

What is interesting is that there is also not going on much on Jimmy Jr.s face. His eyes drop at the beginning and I wonder if it's because he has to figure out how much he has to lean down so he can reach Tinas lips. Tinas eyebrows lower while she is leaning in but immediately raise up right before the kiss. She also seems to smile a bit? Compared to that JJs expression is sill very neutral and that is so in-character. He always seems so distant and there is never shown any reason why he likes Tina.

Maybe he likes to kiss Tina? She is probably is very good at it but in this case it's also just a game?

I'm honestly stumped about Jimmy Jr.

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So, I hope you enjoyed that. As an (almost) last thought: I was very confused about you saying "the credits are not canon" and wondered where that came from? And then I realised that sometimes that might be true XD For example when they are just pixels. But stuff like this here I actually consider canon, as well as some of the the scenes when they are back in the restaurant. Maybe not the singing part but Tina kissing all the boys at the party? Yeah that seems like it can work. But in the end I guess it's up to us what we want to add to our (head-)canon.

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Now to the very last thought. I looked up the song "Just what I needed" by The Cars

But the lyrics gave me nothing. So if anyone wants to do a deep dive into analysing the lyrics, be my guest!

Great analysis of both uses of the boys as villains. The way she portrayed Jimmy Jr. in her story is so interesting. To try to further analyze Tina's story. I feel that making Jimmy Jr. the villain and his motivation also links to Tina's desire of wanting him to be more infatuated with her than he acts now. Tina wants Jimmy Jr. to want her as much as she wants him.

However, the majority of the moments that were close to the case for Tina was when Jimmy Jr. got jealous of Tina being interested in boys that weren't him. So what better way to express that desire of wanting Jimmy Jr. to be obsessed with her than by making him the villain of her story that is willing to exterminate the world? That way there's no doubt that they will be together forever. Though further into the story we see Dark JJ doesn't want to marry Tina out of love but possession. If it was for love, Jimmy Jr. would want to dance with her at their wedding, but no, he tells her outright that he wants to dance on his own. Probably not wanting Tina to cramp his style I assume. Maybe this is Tina subconsciously telling herself that JJ's jealousy is not linked with love but possession. I mean, Jimmy Jr. does like Tina, but he's not ready to handle all of her at the age of 13. I also feel Jimmy Jr's feelings for Tina are more linked to liking how much she likes him more than him actually liking her. This makes sense given his possessiveness when she explores other options but wishy-washy when she has her attention on him.

Jimmy Jr. doesn't have the best home life so it would make sense why he's possessive with Tina and Zeke. He doesn't want to lose the few good things he has in his life, even though he doesn't treat them that well when he does have them. He's in a constant push and pull of wanting to keep his loved ones close but not too close that they could hurt him because he already knows the feeling of being hurt by his parents (mostly his dad, his mom is probably fine). Jimmy Jr. doesn't want to lose the attention Tina provides, but he doesn't feel comfortable giving the same amount she gives him because that's simply not in his nature. Tina is also no angel either so it's understandable why JJ would want to keep his distance when Tina gets creepy. TLDR, Tina's story is linked to her desire for Jimmy Jr's feelings for her to be as intense as it is for her. She wants to be the woman that is so loved that one guy is willing to wipe out the entire population minus her, JJ, Zeke, and the Boyz For Now just to be with her. Though she also subconsciously tells herself a possessive love is super toxic and not something you should strive for. P.S. Also to add. Even as Zeke is helping JJ wipe out the population, Tina still portrays him as cordial and even taking the time to say hi to her and offering bean dip. Also, Tina and Zeke have a red-and-blue clothing dynamic in her story which I love. How can you say they aren't meant to be when they're wearing red and blue respectively in Tina's story!?/hj XD

Thinking so hard about Tina writing JJ as a villain Vs. Her writing Zeke as a villain

Bob's Burger's Incorrect Quotes 3

Zeke: [straightening himself out] So, I did write down a wish. [he brings out a card] I'd uh. I'd like to go on a date...with Tina.

Jimmy Jr.: [turns] You? You're terrible with girls.

Zeke: What? No. No. No. Jimmy Jr., look at this. And this. And this here. Jimmy Jr., look at all of this. [he gestures to different parts of his body and spins around] Heh. No. I'm great with girls.

[Scene flashes back to a cheap fast food joint. Zeke and a busty, blonde-haired woman are standing at a counter with buckets of chicken drumsticks.]

Zeke: We both got buckets of chicken. Wanna do it?

Blonde Woman: [shrugs] Eh, okay.

[Scene switches back to Jimmy Jr. and Zeke.]

Zeke: But you, Jimmy Junior. You are amazing with ladies. You know, classy ones. The kind that smell good, and can read. And that always have their glasses on just kind of crooked. You know? The ones that don't go for a guy like me.

[Jimmy Jr. looks at Zeke with a smug grin.]

Jimmy Jr.: Hmm, and why is that, do you think?

Zeke: C'mon, Jimmy Jr., I don't know.

Jimmy Jr.: Well, a mystery we will take to our graves then. Goodbye.

Zeke: Wait. Wait. Ah. [sigh] Okay. Look. Fine. Jimmy Junior. This never leaves this room [sigh]. You are better than me. All right? I need your help.

Jimmy Jr.: I'll do it. On one condition.

Jimmy Jr.: Say that [pushes his phone that’s recording towards Zeke] again.

My Updated Belcher Kids, Zeke, and Jimmy Jr. Job Headcanons

After "What About Job" I became inspired to update the job headcanons. I know Bob is one of the most unreliable narrators in the show, but it's still the closest thing to canon I'm going to get for now so I'm going to tweak my headcanon a bit to slightly fit what Bob hypothetically thinks might happen. Tina: She went to get a degree in literature at community college. I still think she'll be an author of trashy romance novels, but now I like to think she'll also own a small, (sometimes) peaceful farm by the beach. It just has plants to start out with but it will have horses eventually too (sorry Tina, no going big XD). Bob comes by to help Tina with her plants every now and then. They both enjoy the bonding experience. I also didn't say who she married in the original job headcanon post because I thought it would be better if I left it up to interpretation. Screw ambiguity though, Tina is married to Zeke. He helps out when he can and he got some of his family to work at Tina's farm as well. Part of the plants she grows is for Bob's Burgers while the rest is for selling at the farmers' market. Gene: I'm going with he will become a traveling musician, but I still say he got his start by doing miscellaneous things on Bob's Burgers equivalent to YouTube like in the original post. He travels with Courtney and Alex I'm leaving their relationship up to interpretation because I'm fine either way I just think they are cute all together.

Louise: Has trouble finding herself at 18 but eventually decides to go to community college for chemistry. She started out just wanting to do a field that would help her make explosives. However, she later realized that cooking was just chemistry and she started specifically learning food chemistry. She knew in her heart she wanted to keep her family's business alive and used the knowledge she learned to help experiment on alternative burgers and other food they could sell. She's platonic friends and roommates with Rudy. Rudy works at Bob's Burgers as well, he provides the smoothies and suggestions for allergy-free options for the place. Zeke: He didn't have the means to afford college so he decided to join the navy for action, adventure, and money. They rejected him due to his ADHD though. To make matters worse his dad kicked him out at 18. So he offers to work at Bob's Burgers for a place to sleep as payment until he figures out what to do with himself. Zeke becomes part of the family really fast and Bob is happy to have him as his pupil in the upstairs kitchen. Zeke was still sad that he wouldn't be able to see the world like he hoped if he joined the navy. While he still couldn't join the navy, Teddy did offer to help Zeke at least get a captain's license through his connections. Zeke accepted the offer because it sounded cool to be an official captain if he ever actually had a chance at owning a boat. So during that time he balanced getting his captain's license, working at the restaurant, and earning whatever he could so he could go to culinary school. After he earned his captain's license, he is approached by Mr. Fishoeder (who was probably one of Teddy's connections in the first place) and he offers him a job to captain his booze cruise (which is also totally not used for smuggling anything illegal under the captain's nose, no sir!) at the sexy, adult, night hours on the Wonder Wharf. Not what Zeke had in mind when he got his license but he loved to party and thought it could be fun mixing drinks. Thinking of the chaotic memories that could be made sounded appealing as well. Zeke still works at Bob's Burgers when Louise takes over the restaurant. Louise, Rudy, and Zeke all workshop burgers and food ideas but Zeke is the final decision on if the food is worthy to be sold or not (Louise can never be trusted after the bubblegum burger incident even after studying food chemistry XD) So in the day, he works at Bob's Burgers and Tina's farm while at night he is the party animal captain of the Wonder Wharf booze cruise. Jimmy Jr.: Nothing has changed for him. I still say he's a dance teacher. I don't really have anybody I ship him specifically because none really stand out much. Douglas obviously has a thing for Josh so that's out, I don't want Becky Krespe to give JJ another chance, and while I think the concept of JocelynxJimmy Jr is hilarious, I don't think they would work out. So I'm flexible with whatever as long as it's legal.

Anyway, that's all. This all started because I couldn't brush off what Bob thought Zeke would end up doing. I figured I might as well update all of them after that. Yeah, I know the writers needed at least one person with a boat for the "Children of Men" parody but it's still funny out of all the characters he could have chosen, he picked Zeke.

(What About Job Spoilers) Okay, Evil Jimmy Jr. Is Looking Way Too Much Like His Dad to Be a Coincidence!

Tina claimed that she made Jimmy Jr. the villain because she was mad at him for not sharing his gum with her. However, as the old saying goes, it's never about the gum. Tina take your own story as the cautionary tale that it is and run before cycles repeat girl! Jimmy Jr. stop the cycle from repeating in the first place! (Yeah, I know it's not exact but I couldn't just leave it alone because it was so close. Also, the right one was the best one I found on the Bob's Burgers wiki and I didn't want to look any further for the jerk that is Jimmy Sr.) The title is an exaggeration and it is probably a coincidence, but if it isn't giving evil Jimmy Jr. similar hair to his dad is a big brain move.

Incorrect Bob's Burgers Quotes 2

TINA: So you know , ... he called me.

JIMMY JR.: Already?

GENE: Zeke called you?

TINA: [nods]

GENE: He he This guy really gets around.

TINA: Do you mind?

JIMMY JR.: I don't mind at all. Why should I mind? What did he say?

TINA: He asked me out for Saturday night.

JIMMY JR.: Oh, ya' going?

TINA: I told him I was busy.

JIMMY JR.: Ah, really.

TINA: So, we're going out Friday.

[long pause]

JIMMY JR.: Friday?

TINA: Yeah.

JIMMY JR.: He's going out with you on Friday?

TINA: Yeah.

JIMMY JR.: He's supposed to see ME on Friday.

TINA: Oh, uh, I didn't know.

JIMMY JR.: We made plans.

TINA: Well, uh, I'll cancel it.

JIMMY JR.: No, don't cancel it.

TINA: Huh. Well this is a little awkward, isn't it?

JIMMY JR.: Well, frankly it is.

TINA: I've never seen you this jealous before.

JIMMY JR.: Well you're not even a fan. I was at match six - you didn't even watch it.

TINA: Wait a second, wait a minute! You jealous of him or you jealous of me?

[long pause]

In celebration of the new season coming out in a day or two, here's the Belcher kids, Zeke, and Jimmy Jr aged up. This is part two of the headcanon thing I made a while ago. https://www.tumblr.com/qilin-crusader/690246122471636992/bobs-burgers-question-and-adult-belcher-kids-and?source=share I slightly updated my headcanon though and now feel that Louise would have made the "Broken Glass Kids" a real gang and Zeke as well as Linda are a part of her gang. Louise's gang is still small but she's working on it, she just appreciates being part of a group that appreciates the thrill of smashing glass items and burning other items. To explain Zeke's tattoos. On the left arm is a gardenia on his upper arm while the rest of his arm is wrapped up in weeds. On the right side is a harpoon stabbing a bleeding heat and the blood drips to the bottom and forms an ocean. So he has a beach arm, I was going to give him a Saucy tattoo to add on to the beach arm, but I thought it was too silly and declined it.

As for Gene, I thought it would fit him to give him a skort. All the fun of a skirt and the sex appeal of shorts. I also think it would just fit Gene's love of being a goofball that always surprises you. For Louise's hair, I combined Bob's mom's hair and the top of Bob's hair as well. I want to bring the feels of her looking a little like Bob's mom and taking after her dad with her hairstyle because she will always be a daddy's girl whether she admits it or not. Looks like Tina took Topsy's advice and pulled her hair back. I wanted to combine the vision of older Tina with longer hair as well as pulling her hair back because she looks good showing her whole face. I didn't even need Topsy to tell me that because I dug her no bangs look during the stage fright flashback when Tina didn't stop the hairdresser from cutting all of her bangs off. Tina's glasses were originally going to be blue until I saw that they were too many blue glasses-wearing characters. I changed it to yellow since her barrette would be hiding anyway. It worked out because I found out that Tina's eyes are blue so the yellow glasses will be a great contrast. I also thought a cowl neck sweater dress would fit her because I like to imagine her using the cowl neck to hide her face in shame or awkwardness. I also gave her the choker necklace because I like it too. For Jimmy Jr, I decided to give him dance shoes so he looks like he's always ready to dance. Also, I decided to give him a goatee because he would probably wear one to spite his dad and his butt chin. Anyway, hope you dig the designs. Tina's is probably my favorite. Edit 10/4/2022: I changed Zeke's facial expression and gave Tina, Gene, and Zeke some earrings. Edit 10/09/2022 I changed Zeke's designs because I started hating his pants. I gave him cargo shorts instead. I also gave Zeke's shirt very short sleeves that were inspired by @bluebirbbs design. They are very short though because I didn't want to cover his tattoos. I gave Zeke more facial hair compared to the three lines in his old design. I liked his soul patch in the season 12 finale and gave him some stubble because I thought it fit him. The biggest reason I wanted to give him shorts was because of the leg hair. I wanted to show him as a hairy guy but I couldn't do it with his arms because of the tattoos so I went with legs instead.

Bob's Burgers Question and Adult Belcher Kids and Friends Job Headcanons

I recently got into Bob's Burgers and felt like drawing the Belcher Kids, Jimmy Jr., and Zeke as adults (9 years later). I do need some help with design suggestions though. I see Zeke as a tattoo around both upper arms guy (and maybe some in the back) but I'm stumped on ideas. As a ZekexTina shipper the only idea I have is one of his upper arms having one gardenia with weeds wrapping around the upper arm. I don't want Zeke's tattoos to only be about my preferred ship. So any suggestions for Zeke's tattoos will be appreciated. Now onto my headcanons.

Tina - Online (very) graphic novel artist. She makes her money off of making trashy romance novels but her true passion is her webcomic because it's not tied down by any editors and she can create it how she pleases.

Gene - Social media influencer. He started out with Linda trying to help his family advertise Bob's Burgers on the web. He transitioned by making money off of his Youtube channel (or whatever you call it in the Bob's Burgers universe) by doing whatever creative thing he thinks of such as wacky covers of popular songs or food reviews. His channel is whatever he wants it to be and you never know what he plans to do next.

Louise - At 18 she hasn't matured enough to take over her dad's restaurant. She mostly finds a way to cause chaos while still somehow keeping her job on the wharf. Once she grows a bit more, she decides she still wants to run the family business as she did when she was nine.

Jimmy Jr. - Tried to make it in the dancing industry only to see how corrupt it actually was and didn't want any of that. He teaches dancing instead and tries to be the parent figure his father never was.

Zeke - After getting rejected from joining the military (probably from ADHD but you decide), he finds himself going back to train under Bob Belcher to become a chef because Bob was one of the only people that didn't make him feel like a screw-up and he loved how much he felt at home in the Belcher family. He also does self-defense classes as well that Jimmy Jr. and Louise sometimes volunteer to help out (not that much of Louise though because she makes the environment too chaotic and nothing ever gets done)

sorry hugo stans i cant fucking stand that bitch! also logan, sorry i really dont get the hype.... i am also not a louigan shipper. i am sorry mutuals.

it’s 1 am and i’m arguing with myself about why jimmy jr is transfemme (i’m winning)