Even After All The Events Of Tekken 8, I Still Don't Believe That Kazuya And Jin Hate Each Other That

Even after all the events of Tekken 8, I still don't believe that Kazuya and Jin hate each other that viscerally like they do Heihachi, especially Kazuya. Some of the grudges they hold against one other are personal (Jin hating Kazuya for trying to kill him in T4 when it was actually Kazuya's devil, or Kazuya trying to kill Jin because he gets in the way of his world domination plans), but they simply remain on that level - their fight against one another is mainly motivated by different goals and ideals that don't actually hold a lot of personal history between the two, because Jin had never encountered his father prior to Tekken 4, nor was Kazuya aware of his son's existence before the events of the fourth tournament.

It is more logical that their hatred for Heihachi goes far deeper than anything, because he was the only person that had a huge influence in their lives, and a very negative one, of course. With Heihachi having had backstabbed and killed both of them (Kazuya twice and Jin once), I think the writing team could have taken a chance to make a plot point where Kazuya and Jin bond over their shared resentment towards the old man and team up in order to kill him while reluctantly trying to accept one another as father/son, with Jin still being wary of Kazuya, considering he was told by Heihachi that his father was "the worst of all and rotten to the core", but becomes conflicted on the inside once Kazuya reveals the truth about himself and Heihachi in the end.

It would be an interesting concept indeed, as well as adding to the evil father trope and potentially setting up Jin's corruption arc that wouldn't lead to whatever the hell storyline in Tekken 6 was, but rather something more complex and intriguing, as the young Kazama was designed to be a flawed hero, in-between good and evil.

This small change would make the whole story a dozen times better than it is in canon and I am still dissapointed that the writers have not considered this in the slightest.

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1 year ago
Me Being Myself, Ive Written An Extensive Au For This Mess Of A Family In My Head That Changes Everything,
Me Being Myself, Ive Written An Extensive Au For This Mess Of A Family In My Head That Changes Everything,
Me Being Myself, Ive Written An Extensive Au For This Mess Of A Family In My Head That Changes Everything,
Me Being Myself, Ive Written An Extensive Au For This Mess Of A Family In My Head That Changes Everything,
Me Being Myself, Ive Written An Extensive Au For This Mess Of A Family In My Head That Changes Everything,

me being myself, ive written an extensive au for this mess of a family in my head that changes everything, but i only have random snippets of it on paper 😅

rundown is that kazuya doesnt die/whatever at the end of tk2 thanks to jun and lee, and once jun disappears fighting ogre, kazuya and lee take over caring for jin instead of heihachi. things go wild from there, and kazuya has the character arc of a lifetime hehe. if im extremely lucky, maybe ill get an actual fic from it lol (cause im going insane)

1 year ago

my favorite semi-official and somehow not overly indulgent Dadzuya moment is in the tekken comic where he saves Jin once (1) and aknowledges him as his son/a member of his family in the same breath

My Favorite Semi-official And Somehow Not Overly Indulgent Dadzuya Moment Is In The Tekken Comic Where
1 year ago
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works

ACTUALLY WE’RE DOING THAT AGAIN I WANT THIS MORE OBVIOUS

Chapters: 1/? Fandom: Tekken (Video Games) Rating: Mature Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death Relationships: Kazama Jin & Mishima Kazuya, Lee Chaolan | Violet & Mishima Kazuya, Kazama Jin & Lee Chaolan | Violet, Lars Alexandersson & Kazama Jin, Lars Alexandersson & Mishima Kazuya, Lars Alexandersson & Lee Chaolan | Violet, Hwoarang & Kazama Jin (Tekken), Kazama Jun/Mishima Kazuya, Kazama Jin/Ling Xiaoyu Characters: Mishima Kazuya, Kazama Jin (Tekken), Lee Chaolan | Violet, Lars Alexandersson, Kazama Jun, Ling Xiaoyu, Hwoarang (Tekken), Wang Jinrei, Mishima Heihachi Additional Tags: (ships are largely background), Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, redemption arc, Hurt/Comfort, Father-Son Relationship, Sibling Bonding, Rated For Violence, Canon Rewrite, PTSD, slowburn man learning to be a decent father and person, you are all so mentally ill, an author’s desperate attempt to make things freaking okay

Summary:

At the end of the second King of Iron Fist Tournament, Kazuya Mishima was murdered by his own father. Five minutes later, he woke back up.

(Kazuya doesn’t die/get saved by G-Corp AU, the consequences of this small change are absurdly huge)

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finally just gonna post this!! more chapters soon but i wanna wait and space these out, please reblog this version instead!

2 years ago

😍🤗🤗🤗😍😍🤗🤩🤩

beby ice dragon danny??

Beby Ice Dragon Danny??

Frosty fluffy beby boi- him very soft

1 year ago

Some Kazuya stans really strike me as the type to justify Kaz's actions but when it comes to Jin he's the real villain or something bc he started the war, therefore Kaz "isn't as bad". We all know the terrible damage Tek 6 did to Jin's character yet it's like they fail to acknowledge that. And then they say Jin has no care for anyone, when the entirety of the games say otherwise (I hope that with 8 the Jin slander will be less). They do not know Jin as well as their fave and it shows

This exactly! The thing with Jin is that we had quite a few games to know what his character was before Tek6. He didn't transition like Kaz where he was the protag in one game, then a villain in the rest. No, Jin was a protag in all his appearances up until Tek6, then he's the protag again in Tek8. SO, that's to take into consideration as to why Jin's the current protagonist, and why Jin fans feel a certain way.

When Kazuya kills people, kidnaps people and coerces them into doing jobs, smuggles animals and other illegal things, do inhumane experimentation on animals... it's okay because he was influenced by the devil. But if a fan dare suggests that maybe T8 could retcon T6 by saying Jin was taken over by the devil, then it's "NOPE, NOPE!! JIN WAS IN FULL CONTROL. HE DID THOSE EVIL ACTIONS ALL ON HIS OWN. HE IS IRREDEEMABLE!" When Kazuya kills the G-Corp employees, it's okay because they tried to kill him and therefore they were the evil ones. (Even if not all of t hem were bad). When Jin tries to kill Heihachi and Kazuya for being evil pieces of shits, then that was EVIDENCE that Jin was "evil" all along because a protagonist would never kill anyone no matter how evil they are. When Kazuya kills Heihachi, it's a good thing because Heihachi was evil. When Kazuya continues the war and conquers nations and kills innocents, it's okay because... Jin did it first, so Kaz isn't as bad????? That, or they just straight up ignore Kazuya's actions like that Reddit post did by essentially insinuating that Kazuya has only ever opposed Jin and Heihachi LMAO.

Also actively ignoring all the tragedy Jin went through, too. They'll never bring up how Jin was literally abused and then murdered by Heihachi - no, Kazuya endured that as a child, so it doesn't matter if Jin endured it as a teenager because abuse doesn't affect you once you're that old. Or, how, unlike Kaz, Jin refuses to give into his devil because he doesn't want to go down a dark path.

And like. If Jin doesn't care about anyone making him the True Bad Guy... then what about Kazuya? Kazuya has only been shown to care about 3 people in the series. His grandfather, Jun, and his mother. That's it. (Maaybe Bruce? But I'm unsure). So, what makes either of them "better" in this aspect?

I think the funniest thing is, these fans don't wanna buy that "Jin is good" just because the game told them so (Tek8) but they will quickly eat up "Jin is bad" just because the game told them so (Tek6) despite how Jin being bad makes as little sense as him suddenly being good again. Like the writing is atrocious, yet they pick one atrocious writing over the other.

I AM hoping Tek8 will clear up the slander a bit. I think it will if it writes Jin well enough, which... it's already doing imo. The only bad thing we see so far is the story often bringing up Tek6 again to Remind Everyone. But who knows, we'll see once the game comes out - maybe they'll do something good with it. But regardless, I think the slander will become less. Just because when fans see Jin being Good and actually Caring and not like his Tek6 self, many ppl (especially new fans) will forget about Tek6. Especially when they compare Tek8 Jin to the other Tek games that aren't 6.

Finally, I just don't really understand it. Like a character can be your fav, and you can even wish they were the protag or want to see them be redeem. But actively putting down a character just to prop them up, all while ignoring that your fav has done just as bad of actions. Like yeah, I do acknowledge what Jin did in 6, and no, canonically, I don't really think he can be fully redeemed unless they retcon it. However, I still acknowledge 6 was poorly written and Jin was obviously out of character when comparing him to his behavior in other games. I still acknowledge that Jin being a villain was a creative difference amongst the director and writers, with the writers being the one who didn't want to make Jin a villain, because obviously that's redundant and not the point of the character. And on my blog, I just write the story differently so that it's more coherent with the characters and their motives, by saying the Devil did it, and not the human. But in the end, I'm still not denying what happened, and I'm not gonna go on a discussion board acting like my headcanons are Truth.

1 year ago
Who Could Have Guessed. More Jin 💀
Who Could Have Guessed. More Jin 💀

who could have guessed. more jin 💀

1 year ago
album cover lookin ass (t6 jin drip my beloved)
do these quotes actually fit? debatable. i just found it funny
between chapters 5&6! (drew this after sitting at an airport gate for 4 hours just for my flight to get cancelled)
Assorted OLM-verse Jins And Kazuyas! Of Varying Quality
wanna redraw that left one properly some time
T8 JIN ENDING MY BELOVED. THATS JUST HOW HE EATS TO ME NOW

assorted OLM-verse jins and kazuyas! of varying quality

read the fic!

1 year ago

Jin when he found out that it wasn't Jun but Kazuya who gave birth to him:

Jin When He Found Out That It Wasn't Jun But Kazuya Who Gave Birth To Him:

(For context, I headcanon Kazuya as trans, so that's why.)

1 year ago
Tekken Au Stuffs….
Tekken Au Stuffs….
Tekken Au Stuffs….
Tekken Au Stuffs….
Tekken Au Stuffs….
Tekken Au Stuffs….
Tekken Au Stuffs….

tekken au stuffs….

wildly enough ive actually been WRITING lately, so most ideas ive been getting for this au arent ending up on paper in my usual way! (click for captions)

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