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“haylor was just a publicity stunt”

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Do you know where Taylor said she was giving up on relationships for a while? I feel like I remember that but can't find it

it was in her rolling stone cover story! (a lot of the press she did at that time is tinged with things that are saddening to revisit, but also clear on what her perspective was. the vogue 73 questions is another one):

"In fact, she suggests, she hasn’t dated at all since breaking up with One Direction singer Harry Styles more than a year and a half ago. “Like, have not gone on a date,” she says. “People are going to feel sorry for me when you write that. But it’s true.” Swift says dating is hard for her. For one thing, there’s the logistics. “Seventy percent of the time, when a guy asks me out, it’ll just be a random e-mail,” she says. Some movie star will get her address from his publicist and e-mail her cold. Usually she politely rebuffs them – but even if someone did penetrate that line of defense, building a relationship is hard. “I feel like watching my dating life has become a bit of a national pastime,” Swift says. “And I’m just not comfortable providing that kind of entertainment anymore. I don’t like seeing slide shows of guys I’ve apparently dated. I don’t like giving comedians the opportunity to make jokes about me at awards shows. I don’t like it when headlines read ‘Careful, Bro, She’ll Write a Song About You,’ because it trivializes my work. And most of all, I don’t like how all these factors add up to build the pressure so high in a new relationship that it gets snuffed out before it even has a chance to start. And so,” she says, “I just don’t date.” (That goes for hooking up as well. “I just think it’s pointless if you’re not in love,” Swift says. “And I don’t have the energy to be in love right now. So, no.”) Truth be told, Swift sounds a tiny bit jaded – which, for a “self-professed hopeless romantic,” maybe isn’t the worst thing to be. “It’s not like I’ve sworn off love,” she says. “My life is just not conducive to bringing other people into it right now. I’m very childlike and romantic about lots of things, but I’m realistic about this.” [....] it’s not bad that I’m not hopelessly in love with someone. It’s not a tragedy, and it’s not me giving up and being a spinster. Although I did get another cat.” She laughs. “I asked around: I was like, ‘Does two cats count as cats?’ But then I thought, what imaginary guy’s perspective am I thinking about this from? Someone is going to think I’m undateable for a lot of reasons before they think I’m undateable because I have two cats.”"

eta: the above still applies, but i was actually remembering her glamour magazine interview with this -

"Yeah, I do feel jaded about relationships, to be honest. I think the media has sent me a really unfair message over the past couple of years, which is that I’m not allowed to date for excitement, or fun, or new experiences or learning lessons. I’m only allowed to date if it’s for a lasting, multiple-year relationship. Otherwise I’m a, quote, ‘serial dater’. Or, quote, ‘boy crazy’. The narrative has been so wrong, every time it was the same. It’s 'Taylor spotted talking to this guy, she’s chasing him.’ They create a beginning to the story that didn’t happen most of the time, so then they have to create an ending. So they always go to the same fabricated ending that every other tabloid has used in my story, which is, 'She got too clingy’, or 'Taylor has too many emotions, she scared him away’. Which has honestly never been the reason for any of my break-ups. You know what has been the reason? The media. You take something very fragile, like trying to get to know someone, and it feels like walking out into the middle of a gladiator arena with someone you’ve just met. And all of a sudden the public and the media are allowed to say thumbs up or thumbs down. So I just don’t try it anymore."

Columbus, 8/18

i think it’s too soon too, people have barely been able to absorb speak now tv yet! it would be better if she waited a little bit longer (although i am dying to hear these 1989 tv vault tracks lol)

don't get me wrong, I am a HUGE haylor and 1989 stan but I hope taylor waits a few months before she starts promoting 1989 tv. I feel like both midnights and speak now tv have not really gotten the attention they deserve because everyone is focused on which album she's gonna rerecord next.

tbh i can see this being the way haylor ended but i think they broke up and didn’t try again because they never found the right timing and always went in circles with no improvement. i think they both gave up because of outer circumstances and they were at their wits end the last time they “tried”/crossed paths again. i think the song “two ghosts” explains pretty much how it ended and how they were both exhausted from trying to make it work and how they didn’t feel like “them” anymore. they both felt the same way but it’s clear that deep down, taylor wished harry fought harder for her, even if she also gave up.

well i have settled on a full story of haylor’s end. like not a “here’s a couple ideas but we’ll never know the full story.” question gave me the whole story

in january after the party, she asked him to try again. for real. because she was in a better place and she wanted to try, she didn’t want to live her life the way she had resigned herself to only having casual hookups.. she wanted to try something real again. And he basically said that he couldn’t. that he was willing to be her “good time guy” (stealing phrasing from private practice). And she was like “I want more than that” and he was like “I can’t,” which is where we get Perfect. He might never be the guy who is there for something real, but he can be the guy who can deal with the camera flashes and the songs for some troubled fun confined to the liminal spaces of hotels. And then she was like “okay well no” and then he didn’t think she would move on………… but she did. and fast, even. and that’s why calvin was so devastating for him. Because he genuinely thought he was calling her bluff. and then there’s this song where she’s like “you know what you little twerp. you healed something in me for half a second and I saw colors I’d never seen before and not seen since. I thought we had something. but when it was too much for me, you let me walk out, and then you never fought even when I wanted to try again so where do you get off getting upset that there was no bluff to call? I hope it feels nice to settle, because you chose this.”

One of my fave bits in Question…? Was how she called them a meteor strike. It was a before and after moment in their lives.

It’s a deep thing when a person does that to you, because life moves on, you move on and yet there are these moments when one little thing takes you back and you reminisce and you wonder..

I always find it interesting that after 1989 when songs were no longer about Harry there were songs that made me think of him so strongly even if they were about someone else… because the way she describe the spark or the heartbreak was one that had a taste of Harry and their story. I always thought that was just me being a Harrie but now… i guess some feelings hit you so strongly that they change you…and color how you see the world after.

And she said it all in Question a year ago. It ended up being one of her more telling songs… 10 years in the making

Meteor strike indeed

What do you think is the actual deal between Harry and Taylor? Because they seem to be each other's muses- and with the lyrical back and forth that's been going on, EVEN AFTER A DECADE- it can't be nothing. They give off major soulmates vibes (musical-wise) and even relationship-wise (although they could also be star-crossed lovers) with such shitty timing everytime 😂 i've supported joe and taylor for years, but I've got this inkling in my mind like someway and somehow, H and T might still find their way back to each other. Joe just seems meh :/ tbh.

i almost feel like i shouldn't answer this because it's a bit loaded, but it's 3:30 am so why not 😅💕

i'm going to first defer to my friend @cowboylikedean who said:

"they can be soulmates, but not romantically. Consider: their whole relationship has been leading to a friendship which was always destined, but needed a contextual foundation that only an ill defined on again off again/only communicating through sex then song could create. Consider that. Joe is Taylor's forever person. doesn't mean Harry has to be nobody."

we don't know if they've forged a friendship behind closed doors or not, and whether we ever know anything about that is up to them. their interaction at the grammys was warm and familiar, which at the very least speaks to their feelings of respect and kindness towards one another as artists and people. taylor's support for him was clearly genuine (though you could say that of her support for basically everyone in that room). i think it's really important and meaningful to acknowledge that there are a vast array of dynamics that can be considered a soul connection - not only romantic, but familial, platonic/friendship, artistic, those can all be transcendent and vibrant relationships too. i personally feel there's a soul element and connection within their music that needed to exist as a spark to get them where they are today. (had they not been what they were to each other, what would their careers even look like? what would 1989 be? what would hs1 be? etc) and they were also, in many ways, peers when they were together, and in unique positions of fame at a young age that most other people couldn't understand. their timing was consistently wrong/off, but that connection in their hearts and art still came through clearly. to me, it's part of the invisible string - they had to meet and have that complicated on/off thing and have love for one another to be on the paths where they were supposed to go, in different ways, and to be able to stand in a room together where they're both succeeding and both feeling gratitude for what all of that meant.

i think it's a disservice to joe to...not pay attention to what taylor has explicitly said about him, and why that relationship is so different and profound for her. i've seen a LOT of commentary lately about him being boring and not "getting" their connection, and it strikes me as somewhat unfair because we don't see it, we're not privy to it, and we shouldn't be, that is very much by their design. (she did say romance isn't dead if you keep it just yours!) but because someone like h is sparkly and charismatic and a musician, and joe is somewhat more reserved and less obviously visible and an actor, there's this sense that we "know" him less, which can easily seem less interesting, but keep in mind that how any fan sees him and how taylor herself sees and describes him are totally different. he's home to her, he's that gorgeous dream to her, he's the daylight to her, and that's what matters. he's who she's built her life with and found her peace with for many years now, and vice versa. h hasn't found that yet, but i hope he does. but that doesn't necessarily mean harry has to be nothing to her. whether that's fondness and recognition of their influences on one another and gentle nods to the past, or whether that comes in actual friendship, i think it's really important and valuable to acknowledge that the soul connection can happen and NOT be romantic, or initially be romantic/sexual and then transform into something else later, and it's no less of a cosmic pull. in one way or another, they'll always be connected, even if it remains in lyric and melody - and that's also always going to keep having a life of its own.

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New reading https://youtu.be/4hsmu79cQug?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/4hsmu79cQug?si=vE1WKG6KNaIgF4Pq

Thanks for sharing! This reading on TS and HS from last night is quite long and detailed (and interesting!). Here are the highlights that jumped out to me:

Something is coming to an end for Harry.

Something will bring them to a common playing field.

Someone is telling Harry to consider the relationship, and getting back together, maybe even Taylor herself.

There may be someone trying to steal this love and wish fulfillment from Taylor. Someone is being immature and trying to play games to keep them apart. Could be someone they both know.

Taylor doesn’t want to say too much to anyone else, but wants to spend some time together and see if a reconciliation would work. She wants to try again.

She maybe have felt like she couldn’t make him happy in the past, but his unhappiness wasn’t because of her or her fault. There was some disconnect or misunderstanding between them with this.

In the years since, she may have found herself and her worth.

Harry may have been holding back his true feeling for her, but that is no longer the case because he does want to reconcile as well.

Maybe some abandonment issues here. They may have needed time apart to heal.

She was unclear about where she stood with him, because she wasn’t getting what he was trying to say. She thought it was about her when it wasn’t.

Things didn’t go the way Harry thought they would or how he’d planned.

Both of them want to reveal a truth and they both feel guilty about the way things happened.

He may be changing his mind about someone new and looking back at Taylor.

He feels a lot for her. And he’s open to this reunion.

Third-party interference is the obstacle for this reunion.

They both see that they could do this with each other.

They feel at home with one another.

She’s going to confess that she left him before he could leave her, because she was afraid.

He is watching and using his intuition. She’s getting justice (could be something to do with whoever is trying to interfere).

They’ll run into each other. It will spark something new for them.

Reader predicts this will happen within the next 10 weeks or months, maybe much sooner.

They have a lot to talk about and a lot to communicate and express in order for this to work out; this may have been a challenge before but now they will be more genuine with each other.

If they get back together, and don’t let other people get in their way, they’ll do really well together.

They may do a duet or collaboration that would bring a lot of financial success.

They may end up having a family together.

New reading https://youtu.be/4hsmu79cQug?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/4hsmu79cQug?si=vE1WKG6KNaIgF4Pq

Thanks for sharing! This reading on TS and HS from last night is quite long and detailed (and interesting!). Here are the highlights that jumped out to me:

Something is coming to an end for Harry.

Something will bring them to a common playing field.

Someone is telling Harry to consider the relationship, and getting back together, maybe even Taylor herself.

There may be someone trying to steal this love and wish fulfillment from Taylor. Someone is being immature and trying to play games to keep them apart. Could be someone they both know.

Taylor doesn’t want to say too much to anyone else, but wants to spend some time together and see if a reconciliation would work. She wants to try again.

She maybe have felt like she couldn’t make him happy in the past, but his unhappiness wasn’t because of her or her fault. There was some disconnect or misunderstanding between them with this.

In the years since, she may have found herself and her worth.

Harry may have been holding back his true feeling for her, but that is no longer the case because he does want to reconcile as well.

Maybe some abandonment issues here. They may have needed time apart to heal.

She was unclear about where she stood with him, because she wasn’t getting what he was trying to say. She thought it was about her when it wasn’t.

Things didn’t go the way Harry thought they would or how he’d planned.

Both of them want to reveal a truth and they both feel guilty about the way things happened.

He may be changing his mind about someone new and looking back at Taylor.

He feels a lot for her. And he’s open to this reunion.

Third-party interference is the obstacle for this reunion.

They both see that they could do this with each other.

They feel at home with one another.

She’s going to confess that she left him before he could leave her, because she was afraid.

He is watching and using his intuition. She’s getting justice (could be something to do with whoever is trying to interfere).

They’ll run into each other. It will spark something new for them.

Reader predicts this will happen within the next 10 weeks or months, maybe much sooner.

They have a lot to talk about and a lot to communicate and express in order for this to work out; this may have been a challenge before but now they will be more genuine with each other.

If they get back together, and don’t let other people get in their way, they’ll do really well together.

They may do a duet or collaboration that would bring a lot of financial success.

They may end up having a family together.

they are so similar i can’t..

Taylor meeting the parents (the moms especially) this early on, will never not be funny to me. Blondie is out there interacting with them as if they've known each other for years lol. I kind of feel bad for them cause they also get to feel the blow of the breakup alongside their sons. Tay is a daughter-in-law material and no doubt she charms them too, leaving a long lasting effect. She's the kind of ex that the moms continue asking about years after the breakup has happened.

Oh Anon - you are spot on! She is a parent charmer for sure. And we can just imagine the “How could you let her get awaaaay?!?” conversations some of these mothers are forced to have with their broken-hearted sons as Blondie zooms away in the Getaway Car?

While we’re on the subject of notorious parent charmers? Harry Edward Styles. Look at his interactions with the senior Cordens, see how Ben Winston talks about his time with the senior Winstons, see the charm on display as H sweetly asks after then greets Hillary Whitehall in front of a panicked Jack at the 2020 Brits. Or listen to that HAIM interview I reposted the other day. Not only is he friends with the girls, he is friends with their DAD whose drumming he’d admired for years.

They’re considerate and kind, and enthusiastic supporters of these parents’ beloved children. No wonder parents are big fans.

Thanks so much for this ask!