Okay so the third episode of digital circus just dropped and I'm sure we all had similar theories about Kinger and Pomni, but here's my theory about their relationship in the real world based on nothing but speculation.
Here's my theory: Kinger mentions at [17:55] that he was a computer scientist, "Man, seven years of computer science for this, huh?"
While he could mean that he spent seven years of his life studying computer science only to end up in Hell, this also implies he had some kind of hand in creating the Digital Circus itself.
I think he did. He and a group called "Caine and Able" (named based on other theories) created a VR game called "The Digital Circus" with the intention of just making a fun highly immersive VR game for young audience using AI technology.
He and his wife were the first play testers, but there was some kind of error in the code that caused them to lose their memories so they couldn't get out. (perhaps the VR equipment was attached to their brain or something? Or the it was attached to their skull so they couldn't remove it? IDK)
After they got stuck, the team tried again and again to get them out but nothing worked.
But why is it called the "Daughter Theory?" You aren't asking, well my friend that is because Pomni is actually Kinger's daughter.
It is obvious from the moments in the episode that Kinger is a sort of father figure/was acting very fatherly to Pomni when he was more lucid. Anyways, yadda yadda Pomni went into the game to save her father only be to trapped herself unable to remember anything.
Of course, this part of the theory is kind of a stretch, and there's something to be said about the comparisons you can draw from the Mildenhall guy in the recordings and Kinger himself both being married men who went insane. In one of the recordings he mentions not having kids which would imply the same for Kinger. But if we assume everything Mildenhall said was supposed to apply to Kinger, that could mean he also killed his wife in his insanity. I don't think happened. At least I hope not 0-0.
OKAY OKAY episode 3 of tadc has made me go insane and I cannot stop thinking about it. so!! I'm gonna point some stuff out here that I haven't really seen anyone else point out (yet). spoilers for episode 3 under the cut!
during the scenes where caine tries to have a "therapy" session with zooble, they finally admit (assumably not for the first time?) that they don't like their body, that they want to find something that feels right. after caine "helpfully" tells them he already fixed that problem with the box of limb attachments, then immediately rounding back to the subject of his adventures, this happens:
he literally forgot the conversation, because zooble told him to. remember, as far as we know and as far as the show has told us, caine is an ai who was given certain instructions for the circus (remember his comment about making adventures being "all he exists to do"). assuming that's true, zooble basically gave the prompt "ignore the previous prompt I gave you." he keeps forgetting because, presumably, zooble gets frustrated with trying to articulate themselves over and over and gives up by saying "forget it" or "can we talk about something else," and caine does exactly that because it's what he was told to do.
(I could even stretch this a little more by saying that this applies to when zooble said "you're probably not even listening right now," and caine promptly drew a bee.)
these next two will be a bit shorter but I wanna talk about them anyways. remember when pomni and kinger fell out of the elevator? pomni asked where they were, likely rhetorically, and kinger answered with "I'm not sure..."
which, in this case, it does look like a cellar! I find it interesting, though, that this is where he starts to gain lucidity. this place, shrouded in darkness, which he specifically calls a cellar...
hang on. isn't the place where caine sends the abstractions also called a cellar? isn't that place also shrouded in darkness?
I'm not necessarily claiming that kinger saw the cellar directly, but I think this implies that there's more to triggering his memories than just darkness. I think it also has to do with the actual environment, the tone of conversation, etc. remember the bucket on his head in episode 2 and how he suddenly remembered what ragatha was like when she first got to the circus? I think the context really determines what things he remembers. which... is sorta obvious, but I thought it was interesting regardless.
okay so this episode was a HUGE win for all the queenie x kinger shippers/believers. I can't help but notice something interesting about the flashback scene, though. of course, kinger said himself that this wasn't the full story since his memory is still spotty (and having your wife abstract is likely a traumatic experience that your brain would want to repress), but in the first, he said that she eventually was "calm enough..."
very sweet! but... didn't episode 1 imply (if not outright confirm) that touching an abstraction led to glitches?
why didn't kinger glitch here?
now, there's a bunch of possible explanations for this, but I'll just list a few I can think of:
kinger was so caught up in the moment that he was glitching; he just didn't notice it (I don't think this is the case personally).
the glitching that ragatha experienced only occurs if the abstraction is aggravated in some way. since queenie was calm, there was no risk of glitching.
kaufmo made ragatha glitch because he had the actual intent of hurting her (maybe not to that extent, but in some way). she did state that they never got along, so maybe his abstracted form amplified that dislike of her to an extreme? and because queenie didn't want to hurt kinger, again, no risk of glitching.
not entirely sure what happened there, but I think it's at least interesting that not all abstractions act a consistent way.
this one is more of a small detail that I remembered as I was writing this, but on rewatch, I'm pretty sure that caine actually might've turned off the censorship that usually occurs for swear words or obscene gestures for this adventure, specifically in the "scary door" section! while introducing the adventure, caine says this:
I can't quite remember if "hell" was said or censored at all in the first two episodes? but kinger and pomni were able to freely say that in this episode, and kinger said this:
no censorship at all! and I'm sure that if they wanted to say fuck, they could. I'd imagine they were just too caught up with... everything else to realize they could freely swear.
although caine still doesn't quite understand why zooble just doesn't seem willing to do adventures (even after they explain it to him), it's somewhat sweet that he tries to make a specially curated part of the adventure just for them.
rambling aside!! I'm pretty sure that only 2 people will see all of this but I wanted to get my thoughts out :)
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So I present to you, what Cole's wears to work! Unlike the other Hollows, he doesn't have a uniform. The only requirement when it comes to his outfit, it that it has to look as human as possible. You know, so he doesn't scare off any new... arrivals.
While he's never actually seen an authentic human suit, he thinks he did a pretty good job replicating them based on what he knows.
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